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before the house intelligence committee. and it really begs the question of what did the fbi know and when did they know it? how long did they sit on that information? i recall that general petraeus briefed the senate about what happened in benghazi. did he have this looming over his head? what is the realtiming here, liz? that's the real question that i think going forward is so imperative that we get to the bottom of. >> now, as for more on that timing, thursday is the closed door senate hearings on benghazi. petraeus was set to testify. needless to say now he is not. top director acting head of the cia. many are saying he still has to testify here, including ambassador bolted ton through the our network said this is -- there is no way around it that he has to testify. >> you would think he would. >> if they ask him to, even though he is an ordinary citizen now, he would still be required to. >> goes back to that thing about, you just can't have affairs. you know because of the blackmail issue. >> i disagree. you can have an affair. you can't put them on email, all right, people
it. >> if i'm running the fbi. if i'm running the cia and i want access to them because i have to get the investigation to find out when the next attack is coming and what happened with the last attack, i would be raising hell to try to get somebody on the highest level to help me out. why is the phish and maybe -- is the fbi and maybe -- can't get access. call all the senators, feinstein as well as graham get me access. john brennan get me access. >> steve: the administration doesn't want -- like lindsey graham just said they are trying to run out the clock until the election. >> brian: i don't understand why the fbi isn't more outraged. >> gretchen: maybe that's part of the reason why we are seeing drip, drip. somebody is behind the leaks. here is retired admiral james lions. he says courage was lacking in benghazi. he has written an op. ed about it here is a snippet from that according to his article. having been in a number of similar situations i know you have to have the courage to do what's right and take immediate action. obviously that courage was lacking for benghazi, the sa
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